Ministry's Al Jourgensen is a pretty busy guy these days.

Besides touring the world in support of his band's new album -- the ear-crunching Rio Grande Blood, another frontal assault on George Dubya -- he's also doing double-duty with his side-project Revolting Cocks (who also have a new album featuring cameos from Gibby Haynes, Jello Biafra, Cheap Trick's Rick Nielsen, and ZZ Top's Billy Gibbons).

As if that's not enough, the Texas resident just launched his own record label -- 13th Planet -- which he's using to pilot projects with a political bent (among them a new album from Lard, his "other side-project" with Biafra).

Thankfully, the man who put industrial music on the map (OK, Trent Reznor helped, too) found some time in his schedule to gab with the Sun about politics, his plans for the future, his tour stop Monday at The Venue and his penchant for scrapping with security.

So are you tired of answering questions about George W. Bush yet?

I never get tired of talking about that idiot. It's pretty obvious these people (the Bush administration) are not only incompetent, but now I'm also starting to believe they're truly evil. The real capper was the first sitting vice-president to do a drive-by shooting on someone.

And yet, Bush still managed to get himself re-elected. What do you think that says about the American public?

Well, that night, on election night, we were playing in Nashville, what they call a Red State, and everyone on the street was stunned because all the exit polls had Kerry leading. Then all of a sudden Bush declared victory and it was really bizarre. Even in a Red State, people were like, "What?"

People are calling him the worst president in the last 100 years, if not the history of the United States.

That's because he represents a complete and utter cash-grab at the end of the fossil-fuel era. He's the perfect guy to make a few guys some money. Because that's all it's about. Reconstruction equals money, and fuel prices equals money for his friends.

So when you take aim at Bush in your music and in interviews, do you ever get the sense you're just preaching to the choir?

It's actually pretty encouraging ... It's nice to see people bringing their heads out of the sand and learning that this is the most corrupt and arrogant administration in the history of the United States. But the Democrats are equally as stupid and corrupt. It's the whole system that's broken. I'm very encouraged by seeing people realize that it's the system that's broken.

The last time we spoke to you (prior to the U.S. elections in 2004), you swore you'd come to live in Canada if Bush got re-elected. What happened?

There really is nowhere to hide from American imperialism right now. I love Canada. My wife is from Canada. It's a great place with a decent system. You guys have got your own problems, too, but it's a very fair and socially conscious system ... America, or Muck-merica, is everywhere, though, so I'll stay down here behind enemy lines and fight it from here.

You were studying to become a teacher before you joined your first band and you've spoken in the past about one day returning to the classroom. Is that still in the cards?

I would love to do that, if I could ever find the time ... This (music) is going to take up my time for a couple more years, but I would love to spend my sunset years in a classroom as opposed to a stage. It's the same thing -- you still have to grab people's attention and get your message across, so really being a teacher is a lot like being onstage. It's not that weird a transition.

Speaking of music, the Ministry sound of today is pretty far removed from the days of Work For Love and Every Day is Halloween.

Well, people should grow and find different interests and things that excite them ... That's what excited me at the time, and now it's obviously a different situation. Everyone grows, right? That's why you hate having your baby pictures shown to your girlfriend over at your parents' house. It's totally embarrassing.

The new Ministry album addresses some pretty heavy themes, but the RevCo disc seems a bit more light-hearted.

It's totally juvenile -- just an old man trying to recapture his youth ... Everyone has multiple personalities, even throughout a single day. You're not all about politics all the time. I mean, I do my research, I do my homework, I do my reading and I watch the news. But I also like to get falling-down drunk and make an ass out of myself sometime.

And speaking of that, the last time you played Winnipeg (in October 2004), there was a bit of a dustup with a security guard who didn't recognize you and didn't appreciate you crowd-surfing during the opening band's set. Safe to say you'll be wearing a laminate this time?

No! No, I will not! If they don't know who I am, then f-- 'em. Let them do their homework. I've done mine.